I have been writing some critical posts recently about the Christian faith, mostly with respect to the sexual realm, but I would like to write a few things about what is positive in other areas. Although there are many things that people do in the name of Christianity that are often negative and harmful, this does not diminish the positive aspects of the faith.
I often wonder, as we see the waning of Christianity in the West, what would the world look like without Christianity? I believe it would be a much darker, more dangerous, more hateful place. Let us never forget the goodness that the message of Christ brought into the world. As much as I enjoy the history, literature, art and culture of antiquity, I would never want to return to the world of pagan Rome. It was a cold, harsh and brutal place. Modern societies without any religious bearing can be as equally harsh. Communist countries are the best example of this in the modern world. They are dull, oppressive societies, where people have no fundamental rights, freedoms or functions, except as wards of an all powerful state. Furthermore, there are the basic concepts of human behavior we tend to take for granted today, but which have not always existed to the degree that they do right now. For instance, do we want to lose compassion? Mercy? The sense of decency towards others? The sense of hope? Or simply the sense of God in our lives? At least for myself, the answer is No, and despite my quarrels with certain aspects of Christian teaching on sexuality, I would not advocated losing this as part of our civilization. There is also the sense of community that Churches bring. In an era of increasing atomization of individuals and families, the sense and need for community becomes even more important than before. We are social creatures whether we like it or not. So we often take for granted many of things that Christianity brought into the world, such as the care for the poor and sick, or our ideas of what it means to be fully human, and human rights. These concepts as we understand them today are heavily influenced by Christian thought.
Then there is the question of pure evil. I believe in the reality of evil in our world, whether individually or collectively. I also believe evil is a spiritual thing. Yes, evil is not simply biological or societal based phenomenon, but something deeper, beyond our material world. A good example is warfare. Wars are unfortunately a part of our fallen world, and sometimes they are necessary. Both individuals and entire societies can go insane and become bloodthirsty, attack others, and they need to be stopped, usually through violent force. For instance, recently I have been reading about some of the atrocities committed in WWII by the Japanese against the Chinese, such as the Rape of Nanking or the infamous, Unit 731, a sort of camber of horrors in Manchuria set up by Japanese scientist in order to experiment with weapons and chemicals on living human subjects. Vivisection on human subjects was a common occurrence there. This was only one of many unspeakable practices. Then there were the well known atrocities committed by Germany in WWII, a country with a long Christian tradition. But the Nazis, in their hatred of Jews and all non-Germans, were anything but Christian. The fire bombings of Dresden and Tokyo by the Allied forces were also horrific acts of cruelty against largely defenseless populations. Wars tend to unleash the worst side of human behavior, often the darkest, most evil part of out natures.
In other social and political situations in the modern world, the Communists inflicted massive suffering on countless people. Countless have been tortured or killed in the name of subservience to the state. Mans inhumanity to man knows no bounds, and there are many other examples I could cite, the horrors unleashed by wars and civil strife, including within our own country and history. The treatment of whites towards blacks throughout most of our history, not to mention the Native American tribes, is just one example.
All of these things, unprovoked wars and societal injustices, are considered sins within Christianity, the overcoming of which is an essential message of the faith. In a world of often ambiguous moral standards in these areas, the clarity of Christianity is powerful bulwark against evil.
Recently in the United States we had a public holiday celebrating the birthday of Martin Luther King Jr. Now, I understand for probably many of the readers in the manosphere, a national holiday in honor of King is sacrilegious, but the cruelty inflicted on blacks by whites throughout our history is not something that should be forgotten. The Civil Rights movement was achieved through mostly non-violent means, in part by showing the injustices that an entire society can inflict upon a minority part of that same society. It is one of great witnesses in the modern world of positive and effective change, and King should be honored for his leadership role in that. Many of the methods and concepts that drove the Civil Rights movements were born out of Christian thought and ideals, such as the basic human rights that we all share as children of God. Equality, the basic motivating goal of the Civil Rights movement, as we understand it today is for the most part a Christian notion.

King fought for freedom and equality in an era when blacks were openly oppressed. How can you not admire that? What I love about America is that we live in a country and society that can correct its wrongs.
Of course it has to be mentioned that many of the great atrocities in the world have taken place within nominally Christian nations or societies: the struggle between Catholic and Protestant perhaps being the most well known. There really is not a whole lot I can say on that here, except to say that anyone who kills or tortures or even oppresses another person in the name of Christ is clearly lacking in his understanding of Christianity. But these crimes committed by Christians in the name of Christianity do not diminish the eternal goodness that Christ brought into the world. Peace, love, justice, tolerance, a fundamental sense of who we are as creatures of God, there are just a few of the virtues that Christianity developed in a way that did not exist before. This is not even to mention the redemptive message of Christ, which is what it is all about in the end. With so much hatred and evil in the world, as there always has been, we still need these as much as ever.



Woman said:
You know Mister Caveman… or when you write like this Mister Caveman just doesn’t seem to suit you…. but you know… you’re right. I’ve often had this discussion with those that think religion should totally be taken out of public society and I very much disagree with them.
Religion HAS it’s place in society. And in my personal opinion… society feared the consequences of the afterlife so followed laws laid out by the various religions to “save their souls”. There are so many wonderful teachings given to us by all the different religions in the world.
But I do not want to comment on what I just wrote, I want to tell you my favourite part of religion when I teach my students here in China. We’ve only just met, and you know nothing about me other than my sassy and cheeky side and that I am Woman. I am a Canadian, living and working here in China. And for ten years, I have made China my home.
I may not be “religious” by any organised beleif structure, but I have faith. I am not any specific label spurting I don’t beleive in such and such, and God/god died blah blah blah… I beleive there is something much more than just us and what we see. And it is this simple faith I have that has brought me status I have earnt here in China.
My mothers parents escaped the concentration camps in both Poland and Germany, and arrived in Canada to give birth to their second of four children. Both my parents were raised by their respective families in the Roman Catholic faith. And they in turn raised my sisters and I in the same manner.
What I couldn’t get over is the hatred my family had for all Germans. Is not the key lesson of Jesus to forgive? So I was raised to hate them, and when I was finally able to learn to question I asked. I learnt that in order to move forward, I had to learn how to accept that my family was not any time soon going to get over the past and that in order for me to move forward as a person, I had to.
It was around this time in my life that some not so pleasant things happened , and I was indeed in a very dark place because of it. And that one little thing of letting go of my anger for what I’ve no control over, set me free.
Now in living in China, the history of Nanchang and the Japanese is still a very sore spot in the Chinese people’s eyes. And when I arrived here, the first question I’d be asked was, “What do you think of Japan?” Little did I know it was a test question.
When I professed my love of their culture and food… I was then looked down upon for not instantly hating them and showing my love for the country and its people. (Easiest way to explain although not necessarily accurate and horribly wrong at the same time, China wants its people to be cookie cutter cut outs and all think and act the same)
Remember… This was China 2002/3 and it was horribly tight and foreigners had to walk a VERY tight rope. Women were not even allowed to show off our knees or shoulders at the time.
As I continued to live in China I was shocked to see the hatred of all Japanese taught to the youth in school. A hatred that they live with for the rest of their lives. And a dark spot that has them blindly following it. Even the little five year old that lives next door already has this anger in place for the Japanese.
Now, I teach at a College in Inner Mongolia, where a lot of my job is to bridge the gap between the cultures. It’s not easy as I have to be able to pull examples from both cultures in the blink of an eye. And they are very keen on religion.
As a foreigner, it is forbidden to teach about religion for quite a few reasons. But I’m one of the few who has been given carte blanch permission to teach all I want as my superiors and the government know, I never preach. I give them examples, information and never ever try to make them think like me.
Which is an utter lie.
Present enough information to anyone in a way and a manner that can be understood, and you start to punch holes in the way they’ve been taught to think.
In giving my students the example of my own personal life and the upbringing I had; treating the people and the descendants of those that hurt my family, explaining to my students that yes, my grandparents had the tattoos on their forearms as a constant reminder, that there are aunts, uncles, cousins that I’ll never meet because of what the Germans did… results in one question by almost every student I’ve ever had. “But don’t you love your grandparents?”
Living in a family that almost disowned me when I was twelve for being the only one of my generation refusing to be Confirmed because I could not make the promise that the faith I grew up in asked of me; to follow the teachings of Jesus Christ.
And he taught us to forgive.
And I rambled of course.
I should have stopped and just said, “Great post Mister Caveman!!!” But unfortunately, when I see a chance to share some of the culture from here I leap without looking.
China’s changed a great deal. A lot of the youth with the influence of modern Western culture have been learning that it is ok to question and it is ok to not have the same thoughts and ideas that their parents have. I cannot wait to see the changes in this one small aspect of the culture in the coming years!!!
Racer X said:
Woman,
Thanks for all your comments. Your experiences in China are quite interesting to hear. I have always wondered what the Chinese think of the Japanese and vice versa, and how that plays into the political and military dynamics of the region.
Your insights on how the younger generation in China are responding the world around them is also interesting. It would be nice to think that the intellectually closed society of China might someday crack. Perhaps you are seeing signs of that.
And thanks for sharing your experiences with Christianity, as well the history of your own family. I can only imagine how much your grandparents must have hated Germans after the war. I think one of the hardest things we can do is let go of the past and sometimes that seems impossible. Forgiveness does have a liberating effect though.
I am curious to hear more about your life in China. Do you have a lot of that on your blog? And I am particularly interested in how the Chinese view sex and sexuality. Any insights on that?
Woman said:
How come I always seem to catch your comments as soon as I sit down, or just as I am about to leave Mister Caveman??? Are you doing this on purpose???
My blog is an eroticesque with a Woman Twist on the side. In so many posts there is cultural tidbits, and life tidbits of living in China. There are a few picture posts, food posts(gosh I’m hungry!!!!), life in general posts… and yes. Some rants on Chinese men (but not the cussing I do in my head about them or men in general from time to time) and sex. But. Not that much regarding sex as I try to keep sex out of the blog and keep it as close as possible to sex toys, female masturbation and a sex positive site.
Because it is a “Woman with a Twist” blog… there are daily life things a well, students, teaching, culture, lessons and such.
Oh. And to answer your question, the Chinese may be taught to hate the Japanese, but most of the Chinese government hates America. Yet on news reports and all, all government types have perfect the two faced nature. Well this is very true in most of the world not just China. But China knows Japan is important. With Japanese Anime being so hugely popular, the younger generation have that going for them as well to open their minds up to see that their cultures are very similar. As to what the Japanese might think of it all… I don’t know.
China is VERY clever. But not clever at the same time. Sure they might score huge on the American SATS or an IQ test for that is all about theory. Want to stump them? Give them a practical application question or a real life situation and they look like a deer in the head lights. And that is what I try to teach. Imagination and creative thinking is what has been lacking in the country and one of the reasons is the Mao era and the population.
And I shall stop there. Because if given a fraction of a chance, I’ll write, and I’ll write, and I’ll write and miss my lunch and still be writing a reply till the end of forever.
If you’d want to hear more… just know. You have been warned!!! You can spank me for it later. And I might. Just might enjoy it!!
w
Racer X said:
Woman,
Thanks for the continual analysis of Chinese society. It sounds like a very complex and fascinating place.
I find it interesting that you are trying to teach the Chinese about imagination and creative thinking. But how possible is it to teach these sorts of things to people who are conditioned to live under a gigantic dictatorship, without the real freedom to let their minds wander and who must ultimately fear governmental interference and retribution for free thinking, or thinking contrary to the party line.
I’m curious, does the Chinese government monitor your blog?
I think of someone like Steve Jobs. He got his start by tinkering in his garage with electronics. He had no fear of a government telling he could not do that. Where is the Chinese equivalent of Steve Jobs? Is that even possible, under the present political situation?
And as far as spanking…you WILL enjoy it.
Woman said:
Dear Mister Caveman Student;
I so couldn’t resist that!!!
Take a look at American students over the past say ten to twenty years (especially since 9/11? And my personal opinion of, I have so much more freedom here in China than I ever did in Canada). What have you noticed about the way people think? The way people act? The way people treat each other? The way society views someone who is different from they are? You’ll have your answer to a lot of questions if you take a step outside the box and try to take an unbiased view of what is going on. And you’ll see, that China and the Western World are really more similar than you have been taught.
Unfortunately; in order to properly explain things, I have to give a ton of history and explain traditions, cultures and various things to try to make it understandable.
China is a culture where independence, independent thought, original thinking, practical thoughts are just not taught. One major modern reason? It’s too hard to grade. Competition is harsh and at times cruel for these children especially when approx five million students graduate from college and university each year and compete for just over one million positions throughout the country. Grades literally mean everything. The College Entrance Exam (like America’s SATS) are the be all and end all of your life.
These traits are also not encouraged (but there is a very very very tiny lit candle deep within their minds that just needs someone to spark it. This is human nature after all). And they are not encouraged because the concept of “face” is so ingrained into their culture that the entire country runs on it. Corruption is hushed, the internet censored, media is bought simply to keep the “best foot forward” of China fresh in people’s minds and not just for the citizens of China, but to the world as well. And this is one aspect that is so important to them; the country as a whole. How it is seen. And questioning something, especially to someone who might not know the answer, is a great loss of face. People learn early to just accept what is said and done.
In a country with such a long history, (this still even occurs in a different manner though in countries such as England and France, and even in modern day America; ever hear the expression “being from the wrong side of the tracks”?) where tradition is passed from parent to child, to grandchild and down for ages… where children are taught by their parents that they “owe” them for bringing them (the child) into the world. That means, that the child’s life, belongs to the parent. In a culture where one shows their love by the price of a present (very rarely do people have a different notion on this), their status is based on the idea of wearing your money (name brand clothes, dimonds, gold for example, cars and drivers as well) or how much you flaunt your money gives you power and respect. Usually because, you scratch my back, I’ll scratch yours.
It’s been this way for thousands of years. (and there is SOOOO much more that could be explained here regarding religion in China, educational camps and societal pressure, parental pressure, peer pressure and countless other aspects as well, but trying to make this short and easy to understand, and a lot of this just cannot be understood till one actually lives in the culture to see it)
So brief history and culture lesson over. And now for the modern history.
1979 started it all. The doors opened and the grueling and daunting task of modernaisation had begun.
The white devils came to China in droves to see the exotic and mysterious China that had been closed off for so many years.
Western TV was carefully screened before being aired on any CCTV programs. It wasn’t till the internet became popular and easy to access did the young minds of the younger generations realise… there was more to life. International companies found their way into the Chinese market, flooding it with imports and new things. And the money flowed into the country. The people saw that there was a different way to live.
But they were still bound by ancient traditions and a traditional way of thinking.
But how to break free of those roles which have been taught from birth? How to stand up to your parents? How to tell your parents you’ve no passion to be a doctor you want to be an artist instead without disappointing them and living up to their high expectations? (sounds a little like parents all over the world… wanting what’s best for their child) Or how do you tell your parents you don’t want to get married and have children? How do you tell your parents that you are in love with a woman if you are their daughter (or in love with a man if you are their son) when it was considered a mental illness till just a few years ago? How do you tell your parents you’ll not be giving them grandchildren and not continuing the family line? A whole family line dating back a thousand years ended because you want to explore see the world?
Before the doors of China opened, people of course had these thoughts, but it was just so much easier to do what was expected of you than to go against everything and everyone.
This new generation had these thoughts in the 80′s, all these and so many more. And even a few brave men and women living their own lives. They were scorned by their families, disowned and sent out into the country to live with no relations (sounds vaguely similar to parents disowning their children for being gay). Then came the 90′s where the children who were teenagers in the 90′s had a more liberal China, but still to a point an even more tighter China than before. Liberal for more openness in discussions and thoughts, but not so much in actions. And if possible, even more traditional than before. Remember, with Mao, people could think one thing, but had to show and say that they loved and supported and followed the Party Line were sent away and not all of them came back home.
And the memory of all this still being alive in today’s China as the grandparents still alive passed on the stories of what China was like under Mao.
And no one was guiding these people giving them an outlet on how to use this new found openness.
Those very few individuals who tried to stand up to the Party Line were quickly hushed and families threatened because quite simply, you are not the one that will only suffer the consequences of your actions, but your family as well. If you got divorced, people in your family might loose their jobs. The children of your family would be scorned and shamed at school. It was just easier to carry on as you did.
Then came 2000′s (how is this done? I mean, 80′s, 90′s? How does one refer to the years 2000-2010?)… you’ve got three generations of people now that know there are way too many things wrong, a government that has pushed for bigger, better, faster and capitalism now!!! Has pushed for showing the world through the 2008 Olympics that China is not the grey and shady country of old but that it is ready to take it’s place in modern history as a giant slowly starting to wake from it’s deep hibernation.
A government that has pushed for modernisation… and a people who embraced it.
There are still some die hard Party Liners, the traditionals of society that want China to remain as it was as they found their way into power and want to stay in power.
From the governments point of view, I get the reasonings behind a lot of what they doing. Imagine if New York City was a country. This will turn into a huge post if I continue this thought, here’s a link where I discuss it more http://theworldaccordingtowoman.wordpress.com/2010/06/17/censorship-we-all-do-it/
Carrying on….
The government at the moment is now seeing some of the consequences of their actions and not just in the aspect of modernisation and loosing their cultural identity, but their control over the people as well.
Even though many Chinese people feel burdened by tradition, they have their traditions and customs deeply rooted in the core of their being. I would even go so far as to say that genetic memory so does exist and my proof is in the Chinese culture (joke, trying to emphasise a point).
Cultural identity is so keenly important to the people of China and even more so to the government. What is strange to see, is how the government is trying to re-gain some of the control that it has lost over the past fifteen years over the people of China. This can be seen through the attempts at censoring the internet trying to only have certain types of information at a person’s fingertips (and that is a whole other can of worms that will make this into the longest comment in history so I’ll probably write a post about this, very similar to the current legislation that the US has been trying to pass and under just as much shoddy reasonings).
Inside almost all the people of China is a war waging between being modern and being traditional and living up to their parents expectations.
That little flame I spoke of that is inside all of the people of China? That is what I add fuel too.
Think of a teenager in any country. They are impossible to reason with and to understand them. The need for acceptance and the need for identity, that need to break free from the thumb of their parents and authority is so huge. And in China, the youth of China today have a stronger desire than ever to be accepted, to be modern, and still be traditional. They want to break free from being under the thumb of the government and are rising to that task in greater numbers than every before.
But the question still remains? How do you get a teenager to do what you want them to do?? Dwight Eisenhower said it best, “the art of leadership is to get him to do something that you want done because he wants to do it”. Gross manipulation. My mother taught me that everything that needs to be done must be done her way, until I can show her a better way. You cannot teach anyone something that they don’t want to learn, but you can teach them to question what they think is true and what they beleive in by providing them with information and what they hold dear. Numbers.
I said it before, you give a person unbiased information, presenting all three sides of the coin; your side, my side and the truth. Never once trying to sway them to your way of thinking. They make a comment presenting what they’ve been taught, then get them to question it by presenting facts to them, using examples from history. Comparing their history books on a situation to the history books from another country. By asking them questions about why they do such and such and getting them to think about it, relating it to another culture, and asking them more questions. Adding even more fuel to that flame, by just getting them to think and question one or two things. Then as the light bulb in their heads begins to turn on, they begin to question more and more and more.
Teaching independent thought, creativity, thinking outside the box is easy. It just requires a hell of a lot of patience. Teaching how to respect someone for thinking and acting differently than you is the hard part.
Many people come here to try to do what I do and are so very unsuccessful in what they set out to do. And the reason why they are not successful is simple. How would you feel if someone came into your country, telling you that your way of life is not as good as theirs and force their way of life on you????
Sounds familiar doesn’t it???
Change IS happening in this country. And what is reported in the news in Western society is that not much is being done here to bring China up to the same speed as the rest of the Western World. But I disagree. If you look at any history of China, each time there was a change in government, each time there was a revolution in thought, there was social unrest, war… destruction. And with the Mao era still fresh in many people’s minds… the changes have to be slow.
You asked about government interference and retribution for free thinking… ever hear that phrase… “everyone hears the cannon, but no hears the blade”, in other words, he who complains the loudest is the most heard and the most annoying. Think of it in nature. A mud slide versus a meandering brook. A mud slide destroys in an instant not caring who or what is in its path leaving destruction and waste in its wake in an instant. A meandering brook with time and patience can shape a nation. I know. My ego appears to be massive right now thinking I’m changing a country. I can walk around saying “Mao was a fucking lunatic, he was a rapist, a murder, he raped the country of everything and destroyed the country setting it back a hundred years in its natural course of growth” which is quite true… but maybe not the best thing to say about a country where about 70% of it still worships Mao’s memory. Now if I were to say, “Mao was a great man for unifying China, bringing China out of it’s dark history and bringing about a great change. But Mao was a man who once he discovered a taste for power became hungry for it, greedy with need and as a result did the same as every other greedy man desired more. Can you give me some examples?” which is also very true… which do you think would open the doors of their minds to question their own beleifs? To every thought and action there are good things and bad things. Or black and white and a whole lot of grey. They see things black or white. I attempt to encourage them to see the grey.
Before I bought Astril, for four months I couldn’t access anything on WordPress. And that meant my blog I could not see. Before that, my blog was probably monitored just as much as every other site/personal blog was. But since I never really spoke negatively of China, never pressed my thoughts onto anyone, never broke the law when it came to the content, it probably never even registered a bleep on their radar.
I get this one question often, “you seem like a very sexual person why don’t you move to a part of the world where you can meet that need?” or something similar. I’ve fallen in love with the country. And each day I live here, I learn more about it. and love it all the more. Yes, there are still some things that tick me off (after all I am still a foreigner, and I still want/need more sex, still cannot stand the crazy drivers on the road and many other things)… but would you turn your back on something that makes you blissfully happy just because it’s got some quirks?
And I’ve missed my lunch because of replying to your comment!!! I love bridging the gap between the cultures it is something I love even more than my orgasm. And if you haven’t noticed? If given even half a chance, I’ll drop everything to try to pass on new information.
When it comes to the ability to invent, they have the potential to become the top country in the world. But at the moment, it is very few and VERY far between. However; their ability to reverse engineer is remarkable. But this is already long enough so that’s all I’ll say at the moment!!!
As always, feel free to drop me an email with questions or thoughts if you’d rather not continue this discussion on your post (gabryella_china AT yahoo DOT com)
w
PS- did this deserve a spanking or just a really good break at the fence post?
Racer X said:
Woman,
Wow, that was quite the explanation. Thanks! It is quite interesting to hear the experiences of someone living within China right now, especially since China is becoming such an important country in our world right now.
And this post earned you a nice spanking…in addition to other exquisite pleasures!
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Woman said:
Dear Mister Caveman;
LOL!!! I decided to take matters into my own hands and go crazy explaining a lot of the culture and did write a blog post about it. Fitting? It’s New Years and a post about China!!! YAY!!!
And I am looking forward to it…
g
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Southern Man said:
Let’s not forget that the first organized movement against human slavery in the history of civilization was all due to white Christian males. You know, those guys the modern world so loves to hate.
Racer X said:
Woman…
Haha…well that is fine with me. You gave a nice description of life in China. As far as taking matters into your own hands, I would like to do that with you, using my own hands and fingers to give you lots of delicious sexual pleasure and orgasms…
Racer X said:
Southern Man,
Yes, quite right.
Woman said:
Dear Mister Caveman:
How fast can you make it to my house to do what you described and more?
Respectfully;
w
Racer X said:
Woman,
I can start digging a hole in the ground right now and in about a year I will make my way to China. Can you wait that long?
In the meantime I want you to imagine my fingers and tongue pleasuring you in all those different ways you like…
Woman said:
Mister Caveman;
No. I cannot wait that long. Chop chop. Try to make it before summer so you can make use of a fence post without frost bite!!!
Ok. I might not be able to wait twenty minutes either. But that is just me.
w
Racer X said:
Woman,
I will do my best, but digging through the earth until I reach the other side will take a bit of time. When we do fuck, however, the wait and build up will make for some intense orgasms for you.